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2/22/2008

The format war is over!

  So, as you all know, the . It's been about time, is all I can say to this, but I am glad that things have developed so quickly in the end. Toshiba pulls the plug, Universal announces Blu-Ray support the very same day, and Paramount the day after. So now, and we can finally begin to ring in the high definition era.
  Nonetheless, let us not forget that has been done over the past two years over the course of this war-that-never-should-have-been - kinda reminds me of the Iraq war, but that's a different story. The this format war has created among consumers is serious and the fallout will be noticed for at least another year. Although the actual war may be over I have no doubt that even around Christmas 2008 you will still have people walking into stores asking 'Isn't there another format?' Let's face it, when you are talking about the mainstream body of people, information trickles down very slowly sometimes and simply because they haven't heard the news yet that the war is over, because they feel insecure, or because they don't believe it - or perhaps because they do not trust the peace and expect some other format to crop up from somewhere.
  All these are issues that the entire industry has to deal with and that will need to be addressed. A great many people have suspended purchasing movies altogether over the past year - they saw DVD as becoming obsolete and at the same time didn't want to put their money on either of the high def formats in fear they may bet on the losing horse. I can't blame them. It will require a very strong push out of Hollywood to get the gears grinding again, to inspire people, give them hope and say
  One of the best ways to do that of course is to bring out the big guns. I am hoping to see some of the real fan favorites and heavy weights like 'The Lord Of The Rings,' 'Star Wars,' 'Indiana Jones,' and others in high definition soon.




Jermaine
I am refusing to buy any "new" definition of old movies until the prices come down, I am pretty pissed that Sony went the way they did to introduce Blu-Ray. Instead of paying Microsoft to use HD-DVD technology lets invent a whole new WAY more expensive way to play DVD's. A-Holes. Anyways I personally like HD-DVD and I am still expanding my collection as we speak, every movie that I don't have on regular DVD or just liked I am buying on HD-DVD. I will add that when I am buying them I am buying them online at an obvious discount rate, picking up The Complete Matrix series on HD-DVD is a steal in my book. I do this because I am not going to pay the probably $60+ on Blu-Ray if it even comes out on that format. Sony you won't get my money any time soon my friend, at least not until you make a PS3 with more hard drive space. I have waited this long I can wait even longer, especially since you have new movies still coming out on neither format. Shoot there are new movies coming out now that don't even includ

4/28/2008 7:05:33 AM


Rocker10
Ad TV to high definition in paragraph 2. My mistake there.

4/5/2008 11:03:37 AM


Rocker 10
Isn't it amazing that the people that criticize Blu-Ray can't even spell it right? Blue Ray? Gimme a break!

And Blu-Ray isn't slightly better then DVD unless you are watching it on a system that doesn't reach the potential of 1080p. That statement is ridiculous as is the one judging Blu-ray off of what high definition looks like...there are subtle differences even there.

How about we educate ourselves before we spread misinformation please.

One other thing, I don't plan on double dipping much at all, the upconvert in these players helps alot with the standard definition stuff. The new Blu-ray stuff including new movies is pretty stunning to say the least.

4/5/2008 10:56:29 AM


Mike
Blueray is not enough of an improvement to justify its purchase. Until they bring out holographic movies for home viewing, they can kiss my arse. They've double dipped me enough!

3/22/2008 8:05:50 PM


Ian
I agree with T. Carrol. I upgraded my VHS collection to DVD and the format looks great and offers many extras that VHS didn't. I'm not about to replace my collection yet again with blue ray disks just because some titles may look *slightly* better. It's bad enough that the studios are continually "double dipping" by re-releasing films in directors cut editions or with added features in order to entice us to buy the same films yet again. Blue Ray doesn't offer enough of a jump in quality OR features to make me want to switch.

3/17/2008 5:13:10 PM


Paul
This "war" happened because there was no one with the ability to get the parties together. When DVD began, Warner Liebfried headed the group that made that happen and the result was a gold mine for the companies. When they started, some of us were asked to a focus group meeting - which promptly told them they had it wrong. They invited the same group back again 3 months later with a "good" product. The rest is history of one of the best and most profitable products in electronics history.
I have owned both formats since June 2006 and see that my experience was not counted as major since the camp that still did not have a final product has won.
My last bunch of Blu-ray discs are now finally getting their act together, but the prices are probably going to stay high (note Fox with their usual gorging on videos).
R.I.P. HE-DVD "We knew ye well".

3/13/2008 10:47:46 AM


T. Carroll
Hello,
I have over 1000 regular DVDs, and am not about to be sucked into another format. I "upgraded" my Beta tapes to VHS, and then VHS to DVD. I could see a real benefit on my wide screen at this point, but even though I do see that the picture is slightly better on the HD channels when compared to the regular digital channels, it is not enough of a difference to make me trash everything and start over.
I find that I quickly get used to the picture and begin to see no difference. DVDs still look excellent, and with the new machines that can upgrade the picture, it is not worth investing in Blue Ray at all. How good would Blue Ray be doing if Sony had not included the format with their game machines?
Tell me about a blue ray disc I could still play on my computer, or small portable player, or the secondary player in my rec. room, and perhaps I would be interested.
This is just another marketing ploy, like say changing from 78s to Lps to tapes, to cds. Remember the flop of new format CDs mini

3/6/2008 8:34:13 AM


DVDRowe
The right thing to do would be to get those titles previously prepared in hi-def but pulled - titles like Face/Off - or those films that Warners put out exclusively on HD-DVD like Casablanca out there quickly. It would also be a good if the studios didn't cheap out on the extras - nothing will keep the consumers from adopting the format more than knowing that their SD copy of Crash has tons of extras, and the BD doesn't.

This is still going to hurt companies. Why should I buy, for example, the new Criterion edition of The Last Emperor with its nice hi-def transfer... when I fully expect them to do a BD in the future. They have to act fast.

3/1/2008 7:41:54 AM


Moviefan
"war-that-never-should-have-been" - aint that the truth! Instead of saying they were going to let the consumer decide, and then pulling the rug out from the HD purchasers, the studios should have demanded that one format be choosen. Withheld any product until a single format was agreed upon. Now I realize in this world that the studios were not going to sit around and let the other studios make money while they don't, but to push a "war" on us and then NOT let the consumer decide, is wrong. The problem is, I see a lot of numbers thrown around. Game systems versus dvd players. I still don't know who was really selling more hardware and/or software. But suddenly, studio's started leaving HD and moved to Blu-Ray (and if it was money that caused this, it could just have easily gone the other way). Why couldn't this have been done before 2 competing systems were turned loose? How much more hardware and software could be out there now?

2/26/2008 7:47:33 AM


Matt
It helps if you don't consider it as being "sucked in".
With the exception of LD (which never truely reached the average consumer), all the standard home video products have enjoyed a long life. They just inevitably get replaced with something better.
"Big Ticket" titles are the ones you WANT to get in the new formats though. Why would you go out and buy The Brother's Solomon just because it's a new title, when you can get something like the first Pirates of the Caribbean, which looks and sounds beautiful on BD?

2/25/2008 8:28:12 PM


MBD
I'm very happy with the "big ticket" titles, which are many, that I already have on DVD. I'm certainly not going to ugrade those titles, but if I do get a Blu-Ray player, I'll start buying upcoming titles in that format. I've gone from VHS to LD to DVD on the "big ticket" titles...and I'm not going to be sucked in again.

2/25/2008 8:05:53 PM


Matt
I don't doubt that we will see many more versions of our favourite films out on "home video" many times over... but, to me, it's not about being sold another copy of my favourite movie. It's about the technology getting better, working towards the point where the picture and sound is as good as in theatres. They're getting there, but you still would not be able to project a 1080p image onto a 75 foot screen and have it look like film... maybe 10 years down the road! :)

We actually haven't lived through a lot of this refining... I mean, Home Video (VHS) only came out 25 years ago... motion pictures have been around a lot longer! But the medium is adapting as the televisions do.... VHS looked fine on a 13-27inch TV... but try it through a 47-50inch and it looks aweful. DVD looks good through a 50inch.... but try projecting it onto a 200inch screen... same results.


2/24/2008 10:51:30 AM


bios

nah, won't take too long. there is plenty of money to be made out of the suckers out there, because that's what all these new formats are about; upgrading/refining an existing technology to maximise profits by selling us the same films again, except in 'better quality'. we lived long enough without this quality didn't we? yet we still buy. we are stupid ;-) But hey, that's consumerism, and that's how the market works.


2/24/2008 12:25:12 AM


Matt
I agree, nothing should be rushed.. but the video processing has already been done for these movies that are already on HD DVD (or are ready to be shipped... ie. Transformers and Beowulf)
It would be very easy for Paramount to author movies like these on Blu ray quickly, since they already have these movies encoded in HD. In the case of Transformers, they might just want to take their time and master a lossless audio track for the Blu ray release. This shouldn't take months and months though.

2/23/2008 2:44:57 PM


dvdfanincanada
Not too soon I hope. The worst thing that could happen now would for the studios to rush big ticket films out on Blu-ray without keeping track of the quality of the discs. I want them to take their time and get it right. The format can't survive any further bad stories about picture quality/discs freezing/not playing in certain machines etc.

2/23/2008 9:55:26 AM






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